Sep 16th, 2008 // 10 Comments

loooove.jpgPerhaps it’s proof that the “blogosphere as focus group” concept can, sometimes, work: Kanye West is re-recording “Love Lockdown” with different drums and a new, perhaps less-mumbly vocal take. But he’ll never give up Autotune: “Sidebar… if you don’t like autotune… too bad cause I love it and have been using it since the College Dropout!!!” So there, you guys. So there. [kanYe West: Blog]

  1. Al Shipley

    It is true that he was using vocoders back on his first two albums, but they were usually more buried in the mix as background vocals, and sometimes he had a more capable singer like John Legend singing through them. Then he went from using them his own way to just copying T-Pain’s way.

  2. Anonymous

    That’s retarded. He doesn’t get a second chance at the same song.

  3. Al Shipley

    @tim_loves_cats: Why not? The “official” version of any work of art is rarely the first draft, and if it’s pretty clear that he improved the arrangement of the song between its first recording and its first live performance, why shouldn’t he commit those improvements to tape?

  4. Audif Jackson Winters III

    On a related note concerning Autotune, maybe Andy Samberg will re-record “Space Olympics”, and add something funny to it this time.

  5. Rock You Like An Iracane

    @tim_loves_cats: You actually believe rules apply to Kanye?

    @Al Shipley: Agreed. I listened to both several times yesterday; the live arrangement’s SO much better, it’s not even close.

  6. Anonymous

    it was perhaps the only performance on the VMA’s where the live version was indeed better.

  7. Anonymous

    @Al Shipley: I take issue with the song being recorded, released and then re-recorded with the public’s tastes and opinions in mind. The tune got released and if people weren’t into it, better luck next time. WITH A NEW SONG.

    That’s aside from the obvious integrity issues that go along with re-recording it based on popular opinion.

  8. enriquez the water bottle

    @tim_loves_cats: Though art does go through many drafts before settling on “completed,” that is usually a private matter, and I agree with you on this. The biggest offender: George Lucas, who has had how-many? passes at Star Wars, and will still fiddle with it until he dies.

  9. Chris Molanphy

    @tim_loves_cats: There’s a long history of people rerecording their own material based on other people’s opinions, from George Martin telling the Beatles to speed up “Please Please Me” to disco artists in the ’70s taking acetates to clubs and gauging the crowd’s reaction before taking the track back to the studio for remixing. What’s so new and unprecedented here?

    As for Kanye himself, there were two versions of “Diamonds from Sierra Leone” in ’05. Frankly, I thought Kanye’s rapping on the first version was superior, but the second version had an excellent guest rap from Jay-Z, featuring his now-immortal line, “I’m not a businessman/I’m a business, man!” I wouldn’t have wanted to lose that.

    Now, if I may join the thumping-Kanye bandwagon, I will say that what “Love Lockdown” needs is a cowriter — mufu’in song needs a bridge and/or a proper verse. Writing R&B songs is a different discipline than the high-level collage West’s been doing, and if this is the direction he’s moving in he needs help.

  10. The Illiterate

    @tim_loves_cats: It would make a big difference if he was actually charging anything for the song, but he isn’t (at least not yet). I think it was a mistake to release what was obviously a quickly recorded demo, but I also think, since this is something stylistically new for him, that he was so excited about it he wanted to get it out there fast. At least he’s figured out that it wasn’t as hot shit as he thought it was, and he may not have done that if he hadn’t given it public exposure.

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