MTV’s UK Web Site Resorts To Internet Trolling

Apr 9th, 2009 // 22 Comments

Sure, when a Web site makes a big stink about counting down a Greatest Whatever Of Ever List, there’s bound to be some quibbling; these sorts of lists, of course, were pretty much designed to hold up weakly premised cable clip shows and stoke lots of link-assisted commenter arguing from the Internet’s various peanut galleries. But MTV UK’s search for the Greatest Ever Album not only has a distinct bias toward albums hyped by the NME over the past nine years and the potential to really fire up older music-fan types by including two albums by Oasis and none by Blur in its 26-album shortlist, it has a curious No. 2 behind Thriller:



1. Michael Jackson, Thriller
2. Craig David, Born to Do It
3. Guns N’ Roses, Appetite for Destruction
4. Radiohead, OK Computer
5. Nirvana, Nevermind
6. Oasis, (What’s the Story) Morning Glory?
7. Oasis, Definitely Maybe
8. U2, The Joshua Tree
9. Arctic Monkeys, Whatever People say I Am, That’s What I’m Not
10. Amy Winehouse, Back to Black
11. The Strokes, Is This It
12. Kanye West, The College Dropout
13. The Stone Roses
14. Eminem, The Marshall Mathers LP
15. The Smiths, The Queen Is Dead
16. Rage Against the Machine
17. Prince and the Revolution, Purple Rain
18. REM, Automatic for the People
19. Usher, 8701
20. Pixies, Doolittle
21. The Notorious B.I.G, Ready to Die
22. Lauryn Hill, The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill
23. Human League, Dare
24. Jay-Z, Blueprint
25. Dizzee Rascal, Boy in da Corner
26. Mary J Blige, What’s the 411?

I’m thinking this placement is an outgrowth of misguided homerism, but really? Craig David? Was Born To Do It a watershed achievement that we missed over here because we were too busy worrying about A.J. McLean’s trip to rehab?

Good looking out for Dizzee Rascal, though.

MTV’s Greatest Album Ever – The Results [MTV UK]

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  1. Michaelangelo Matos

    lol

  2. Eugene Langley

    My friends and I used to have a joke about how Craig David didn’t know what basketball was, cause he was British. Not a very funny joke, and I kind of doubt that he doesn’t know what basketball is, but the point is: man, he’s British. And that must have been the thought – “we have to put someone at #2 that’s so British that nobody in America will know what the hell we’re doing and Michaelangelo Matos will say lol in the Idolator comments when they post a thing about the list.”

  3. Lucas Jensen

    @Eugene Langley: HAHA. #s 6, 7, and 10 kinda give it away. What’s Usher doing in there, though? And rad to see the Pixies and the Smiths. Those would not be on American lists. But, yeah, Craig David.

    lol

  4. T'Challa

    I actually saw Craig David in concert once. He was at the House of Blues. He didn’t suck, but he was obviously lacking in the song department (obvs!).

  5. T'Challa

    I actually saw Craig David in concert once. He was at the House of Blues. He didn’t suck, but he was obviously lacking in the song department (obvs!).

  6. T'Challa

    I actually saw Craig David in concert once. He was at the House of Blues. He didn’t suck, but he was obviously lacking in the song department (obvs!).

  7. T'Challa

    I actually saw Craig David in concert once. He was at the House of Blues. He didn’t suck, but he was obviously lacking in the song department (obvs!).

  8. T'Challa

    I actually saw Craig David in concert once. He was at the House of Blues. He didn’t suck, but he was obviously lacking in the song department (obvs!).

  9. Audif Jackson Winters III

    You just cannot underestimate how much cultural import the lines

    Re-re-wind/
    when the crowd say/
    bo selecta/

    has to a certain British generation.

  10. How do I say this ... THROWDINI!

    I don’t forsee much use for that “Craig David” tag.

    That being said, I somehow ended up with a copy of this album when it came out, really dug it (still do actually) and tried to convince my friends that Craig David was going to be big. “Big I tell you. Huge!” I was incorrect, but maybe I’ll send them the link to valid my statement 10 years after the fact. Or not.

  11. Chris Molanphy

    @How do I say this … THROWDINI!: I’ll back you up on that — I kind of loved Born to Do It. It tickled both my Anglophile bone and my dance-pop bone at the same time, and the singles were pretty much all excellent (don’t know where T’Challa gets off saying he was lacking in the song department — songs were all the guy had).

    He also did amazingly well on the U.S. charts for a Brit in the early ’00s. I think there was even a statistic that during ’01, he was briefly the only British artist of any kind on the Hot 100, which a few newspapers used to write quickie “whither the British Invasion?” thinkpieces at the time.

    And then he dropped the followup, and the large sucking sound was deafening — damn thing was off the charts so fast, even the Darkness must’ve been aghast.

  12. Chris Molanphy

    P.S. – Oh, all that said: a No. 2 ranking of that album on any all-time albums list is insane, obvi.

  13. Cos

    I definitely remember this album being a big deal during my stay in Dublin from 01-02.

  14. allyzay

    no mark morrisson no credibility

  15. T'Challa

    @Chris Molanphy: You wouldn’t have known it at the HOB show I saw. So much time/energy was spent kow-towing to ‘the ladies’ with his dance moves and lover-man chatter, the songs got lost in the razzle-dazzle shuffle.

    Although I can say in his defense: When I saw David again at that year’s Wango Tango festival, he performed with only an acoustic guitar player. While the crowd was obviously underwhelmed, it was much better musically than the HOB show.

    And he obviously didn’t have THAT many tight songs, as evidenced by the DOA sophomore effort!

    The early 00s was quite a rough patch there musically–still recovering from the angry young (white) guys Korn,Limp Bizkit, Kid Rock, etc.

  16. T'Challa

    @Chris Molanphy: You wouldn’t have known it at the HOB show I saw. So much time/energy was spent kow-towing to ‘the ladies’ with his dance moves and lover-man chatter, the songs got lost in the razzle-dazzle shuffle.

    Although I can say in his defense: When I saw David again at that year’s Wango Tango festival, he performed with only an acoustic guitar player. While the crowd was obviously underwhelmed, it was much better musically than the HOB show.

    And he obviously didn’t have THAT many tight songs, as evidenced by the DOA sophomore effort!

    The early 00s was quite a rough patch there musically–still recovering from the angry young (white) guys Korn,Limp Bizkit, Kid Rock, etc.

  17. T'Challa

    @Chris Molanphy: You wouldn’t have known it at the HOB show I saw. So much time/energy was spent kow-towing to ‘the ladies’ with his dance moves and lover-man chatter, the songs got lost in the razzle-dazzle shuffle.

    Although I can say in his defense: When I saw David again at that year’s Wango Tango festival, he performed with only an acoustic guitar player. While the crowd was obviously underwhelmed, it was much better musically than the HOB show.

    And he obviously didn’t have THAT many tight songs, as evidenced by the DOA sophomore effort!

    The early 00s was quite a rough patch there musically–still recovering from the angry young (white) guys Korn,Limp Bizkit, Kid Rock, etc.

  18. T'Challa

    @Chris Molanphy: You wouldn’t have known it at the HOB show I saw. So much time/energy was spent kow-towing to ‘the ladies’ with his dance moves and lover-man chatter, the songs got lost in the razzle-dazzle shuffle.

    Although I can say in his defense: When I saw David again at that year’s Wango Tango festival, he performed with only an acoustic guitar player. While the crowd was obviously underwhelmed, it was much better musically than the HOB show.

    And he obviously didn’t have THAT many tight songs, as evidenced by the DOA sophomore effort!

    The early 00s was quite a rough patch there musically–still recovering from the angry young (white) guys Korn,Limp Bizkit, Kid Rock, etc.

  19. T'Challa

    @Chris Molanphy: You wouldn’t have known it at the HOB show I saw. So much time/energy was spent kow-towing to ‘the ladies’ with his dance moves and lover-man chatter, the songs got lost in the razzle-dazzle shuffle.

    Although I can say in his defense: When I saw David again at that year’s Wango Tango festival, he performed with only an acoustic guitar player. While the crowd was obviously underwhelmed, it was much better musically than the HOB show.

    And he obviously didn’t have THAT many tight songs, as evidenced by the DOA sophomore effort!

    The early 00s was quite a rough patch there musically–still recovering from the angry young (white) guys Korn,Limp Bizkit, Kid Rock, etc.

  20. cassidy2099

    I have a joke with my friends where I will say, “Like Craig David, I was…” and everyone always just stands there, because no one has ever heard of him. Then I say, “Born to do it.” And they continue to stand there. It’s an inside joke.

  21. moomintroll

    This is a ridiculous list. That. is. all.

  22. DocStrange

    I love Arctic Monkeys, but come on, British music press, they aren’t so good they’d appear on a list with no Blur (who were the best singles band of the 1990′s).

    I’m not going to even comment on the Craig David.

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